Game of Thrones Podcast Episode 26: Season 8 Episode 5 The Bells


Carmine and I are back to discuss Game of Thrones Season 8 Episode 5 The Bells

00:00 Intro
01:54 Order of Business
12:43 Lions and Spiders
28:54 Daenerys
44:05 Jaime and Cersei
56:05 The Hound
1:04:25 Arya, Euron and Jon
1:15:50 Outro



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Game of Thrones is an American fantasy drama television series created for HBO by David Benioff and D. B. Weiss. Based on the fantasy novel series, A Song of Ice and Fire by George R.R. Martin. A Game of Thrones is one of the most successful television series to ever made and continues to captivate audiences all over the world. The series is set on the fictional continents of Westeros and Essos, and interweaves several plot lines with a large ensemble cast. The first narrative arc follows a civil war among several noble houses for the Iron Throne of the Seven Kingdoms; the second covers the attempts to reclaim the throne by the exiled last scion of the realm’s deposed ruling dynasty; the third chronicles the rising threat of the impending winter and the legendary creatures and fierce peoples of the North.


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  1. Funny how Preston points his finger at the show for not bringing up Gerion, who was never a character in the show, when he himself ignores both him and Tygett, as well as Kevan being explicitly described as "breaking" with Tyrion only after Joff's murder, in context of the books, whenever it suits his theories/argumentation.

  2. TBH there's not much "ambiguity" with Dany continuing to attack if Rheagal was killed after a supposed surrender, it's pretty justifiable.

  3. Hi.
    Were the fuck is the next one? I mean, the podcast for the last episode… would there be a last podcast for it?

  4. Ooh! Great point about Angry Joe and Rhaegal. If her child died when she accepted a surrender, and that mercy got her child murdered, and she did that, I'd be more sympathetic (not that I would forgive mass murder of civillians). Maybe, Martin would be more ambiguous, but I would settle for mediocre television over D&D's shit, and wait for Martin's brilliance in the books.

  5. Preston is totally right about conspiracies. I think the hope for finished books is the impetus for the belief in these rumors.

  6. Couldn't Dany still be considered the Valonqar? She is causing the walls and the keep to collapse, killing Cersei

  7. i am surprised that i enjoyed preston's ribbing of westworld vs gots 6-8…at first i didnt but i liked chad a lot in westworld

  8. @preston Well you were wrong this time. Jon said 'You are my queen' *before* he stabbed Dany, then did not cry but, puked a little in his mouth. soo, D&D have managed to subvert our expectations yet once again…

  9. So… I've typically always been a Carmine defender, bc I usually enjoy Preston/Carmine's dynamic and it means getting more Preston related content but, man… these last couple of podcasts, I've rolled my eyes sooooo many damn times at the know-it-all, high horse tone he takes when he says certain shit, and then the dumb show defending/justification crap is just annoying AF too… im starting to see why people wish Preston would find a better class of podcast partner…

  10. After watching the finale and then hearing Preston's comment about how stupid it would be for Jon to stab Danaerys and say "I love you" as she died…

  11. d&d should’ve handed the steering wheel over once they got tired so the show could’ve had the 10 seasons it deserved, which would also lead to a more faithful adaptation bc they would have more time to go into everything.

  12. The razing of cities is what happens ALL the time throughout history. Given that this is fantasy deeply rooted in history, Dany not destroying King’s Landing would be an unfounded statement that women are incapable of the type butchery intertwined with the history of warfare despite women being actors in such historic barbarism.

  13. Jaime and Cersei should have died in a collapsing tower, as a parallel to the scene that got everything rolling. Bran falling from the tower at Winterfell.

  14. the only issue with the 'war hurts the people' narrative is the scene is so abnormal and so destructive that the episode doesn't read as 'this is what happens with war', it reads as 'this is what happens when a Targaryen goes crazy'

  15. the westerosi sun will go out and arya will still be there…

    maissie williams played a character doing this in an episode of drwho

  16. Visions/Prophecy mean "nothing" in the show: Maggie Frog prophecy = all kids die (they did), Bran's visions of future came true, The destroyed Red Keep from Dany's visions = true. Melisandre's visions = blurry but true. Maz Dur (witch who cursed Dany) so far, so true. Stag kills Direwolf (okay this is foreshadowing, but still an example of events playing out based on Catelyn's telling Ned it is an omen of bad things. Hound has a vision in the fire = true, Beric and Thoros have visions that come true (or they claim to). Three Eyed Raven tells Bran many things that end up being true. Prophecy is all through the show. It may be better and more deeply textured in the books, but it is in the show

  17. Hmmm. What terrible things did Tyrion do? Shae lied knowing he would be executed and his father actively tried to execute him. Sure it was still revenge, but I feel these are small things that he has already atoned for. I don't think GRRM will write him so poorly, if he hasn't already given up writing the story. I may be forgetting other things, but have always felt his POV sections paint him as a very good person who does this terrible thing after his SECOND trial to be put to death.

  18. GRRM sat around on his fat ass for years, didn't bother to finish the story that made him rich and has the audacity to sound pissy when fans of his works want the other two books. Imagine if Stan Lee had acted like GRRM, or Tolkien, he can sound arrogant all he wants but no one's gonna remember an unfinished story George.

  19. My fan fiction beats this season by a long shot. It’s true. If nothing else I’ve been inspired to write my own conclusion just Incase George doesn’t finish it so I have my personal cannon ending.

  20. I really thought that a parallel was being made between Danerys and Stannis. Afterall, the room where she gets the bad news about Varys is the same room where Davos gave Stannis bad news and stannis threatened his subordinates with treason and death.


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